The election is over and Joe Biden has won. Only Trump and his devoted ass kissers keep clinging onto conspiracy theories of massive voter fraud and candidate-flipping of Dominion voting machines.
I’m sure that good and well meaning Americans like Bill Daniels and Dan Man will keep insisting the election was stolen from Trump, and they will continue to do so from the grave.
But Attorney General Bill Barr, who has resigned because he got fed up with Trump’s delusions, has stated the DOJ found no evidence of massive voter fraud that would have changed the outcome of the election. Geraldo Rivera, a longtime supporter and friend of Trump, has advised the President to concede and make a graceful exit.
And on Tuesday, Mitch McConnell declared “As of this morning our country has officially a president-elect and a vice president-elect … The Electoral College has spoken. So today I want to congratulate President-elect Joe Biden.”
While the election is officially over, there is still much work for Republicans to do. January 5 will be one of the most critical days in American history. On that day the voters of Georgia will determine whether or not the US will be inundated by a radical-left tsunami.
The runoff election between Georgia’s two Republican senators and their Democratic opponents will determine who controls the US Senate. Republicans need to win at least one seat to maintain their majority. The Democrats need to win both seats to split the senate 50-50, in which case VP Kamala Harris will cast the deciding vote when there is a tie vote on any issue.
Early voting started Monday with a very heavy turnout, especially by black voters.
Incumbent Senator Kelly Loeffler is opposed by Rev. Raphael Warnock, the senior pastor of Atlanta’s
And just today, McConnell said
are getting “hammered” because Congress has failed to pass a new COVID-19 relief package.
DanMan says
tl;dr
another goofy post from a locked in loser
Fat Albert says
You know Dan, I’ve had my disagreements with Howie over the years. And I’ve been supportive of President Trump because of all the good that he’s done, even while being frustrated at a lot of the silly, stupid things he’s done. He’s mostly been a very good President. But he’s not God, he’s not irreplaceable, and, after January 20, 2021 he’s not going to be President of the United States.
You need to go to some grief counseling, have a wake, spend a couple of days meditating. . . . . whatever it takes for you to get past this. Trump’s done. He lost the election.
Why did he lose? It doesn’t matter. Was there cheating? Almost surely. Was the election rigged? Probably. But understand this: IT DOESN’T MATTER NOW! It’s too late. If Sidney, Rudy, et.al. could have proved it in the first couple of weeks that might have been different. But, at this point trying to change the outcome might very well cause a civil war. It could destroy our country. And frankly, good as he might be, Trump’s not worth it.
So, move on. Concentrate on getting Loeffler and Perdue elected in Georgia. Rather than continuing to whine about a stolen election in the past, let’s work to make sure that no more get stolen in the future. If we survived 8 years of Obama, we can deal with 4 years of Biden – especially if we have a Republican Senate to stop the biggest idiocies.
Bill Daniels says
You seem to agree that massive fraud took place that “stole” the election from Trump. And at the same time, you seem to support a “Well, gee, we’ll get ’em next time.” attitude.
There won’t BE a next time if this massive fraud is allowed to stand! You will never again have a choice other than a Romney vs. Obama type, uniparty vs. uniparty election going forward. America lucked out, the cheating in 2016 wasn’t designed to overcome what actually happened, a massive turnout for Trump. Well, that wasn’t going to happen again, and who cares that the fraud states all had to stop counting so they could reevaluate how much cheating they had to do to ‘win?’ Who cares how in-your-face the cheating was? I’m sure the Georgia races are already fixed right now, no matter who votes. Either the same fraudsters will take both senate seats, or maybe some side deal was worked out, “let us steal the presidential election, and we’ll make sure you get the two senate seats.” We’ll see, but either way, do you really think that will be a honest runoff election? After what happened?
If Trump doesn’t pull this out, there’s really little point in voting in federal elections, ever again. You’ll never be able to elect anyone not pre-approved for you. Trump has to win, the people who did the cheating, and the people who planned and authorized the cheating, have to go to jail. If those things don’t happen, then that’s it…..been a good run, but it’s over. We’ll just be ruled over by whoever China, Iran, Ukraine, Russia, and other foreign paymasters choose for us.
My only hope is that the military has been keeping tabs on the fraud, and that the military does its job when Trump invokes the insurrection Act. That’s pretty much all that will save the republic at this point.
Fat Albert says
” That’s pretty much all that will save the republic at this point.” Oh please!
With that kind of melodrama you should stick to writing soap operas. . . or better yet telenovelas.
If you want to destroy our republic the perfect thing will be to invoke the Insurrection Act. Let Trump decide to use force and the military to remain in office and we’re done. For heavens sake, read what you just wrote: All that will save the Republic is invoking martial law and bringing in the military to overturn the election?!?!?! If you have to bring in the military to stay in office you have no republic – you have a banana Dictatorship.
I agree that there was probably fraud. How massive? Well certainly not massive enough that Trump and his team has been able to convince a single court or judge (including the judges that he appointed) to agree to stop things from going forward.
If there was fraud, it can certainly be dealt with before the next election. Voting is controlled by the states, and most states still have Republican legislatures. Republicans (not just Trump supporters) need to wake up and make sure that the problem doesn’t re-manifest itself. And, by the way, that’s a lot more likely to happen if Mr. Trump gathers his wits and leaves office on January 20th with as much class as he entered 4 years ago.
Once again, Trump is not a god. He’s been a pretty good President, all things considered, but he’s been a far cry from perfect. If we are in such horrid shape that only Trump can save us, then we’re doomed already.
Howie Katz says
Bill, you need to get off that insurrection horse. The only thing the military might be called on to do, is to drag Trump’s sore ass out of the White House on January 20 if he refuses to leave.
The Insurrection Act can be applied only to quell civil disorder, insurrection and rebellion. The act cannot e applied to overturn an election that Trump claims was stolen from him.
Bill Daniels says
https://oathkeepers.org/2020/12/open-letter-to-president-trump-you-must-use-insurrection-act-to-stop-the-steal-and-defeat-the-coup/
Long read, but worth it:
“Here are the facts:
We are already at war with communist China and its willing American agents, puppets, and co-conspirators who seek to overthrow our Constitution, as well as the international elites and other foreign enemies who have aided and abetted this war on our nation. They have infiltrated and taken over every branch of government at every level, state and federal. War isn’t coming – war is already here.
Communist China could never defeat us in open battle, so instead, it infiltrated and subverted our institutions, bought and blackmailed American elites, and made allegiance with willing domestic enemies of our Constitution, to defeat us from the inside out, without having to fire a shot, by using what is commonly referred to as “Fourth Generation Warfare” doctrines and methods. This is war by other means, but it is war nonetheless.
Through well-orchestrated mass vote fraud, the Communist Chinese and their domestic enemy allies are about to install their illegitimate puppet, Joe Biden, and his equally illegitimate puppet running mate, Kamala Harris, into the White House, with their treasonous fingers on the nuclear launch codes.
You must act NOW as a wartime President, pursuant to your oath to defend the Constitution, which is very similar to the oath all of us veterans swore. We are already in a fight. It’s better to wage it with you as Commander-in-Chief than to have you comply with a fraudulent election, leave office, and leave the White House in the hands of illegitimate usurpers and Chinese puppets. Please don’t do it. Do NOT concede, and do NOT wait until January 20, 2021. Strike now.
If you fail to act while you are still in office, we the people will have to fight a bloody civil war and revolution against these two illegitimate Communist China puppets, and their illegitimate regime, with all of the powers of the deep state behind them, with nominal command of all the might of our armed forces (though we fully expect many units or entire branches to refuse their orders and to fight against them) and with their foreign allies also joining in to assist in the suppression of American patriots.
Without clean elections, we no longer have a Republic, and you are charged by the Constitution with preserving a republican form of government wherein the people actually elect their own representatives in clean elections. Article IV, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution clearly commands you in this, when it states:
“The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion.”
“Shall” is command language. And that command applies to all three branches of the federal government, including the executive branch which you run. And that command applies directly to you. You are commanded by the Constitution to take whatever action you must to ensure that we have a Republican form of Government – and that means clean elections. In the current dire circumstances where complicit traitors have been put into place in every branch of government (legislative, executive, judicial) at every level (local, state, federal), through fraudulent elections over many years, it means YOU will have to fix it, with the full support of loyal military service members and millions of military and police veterans, as well as millions of patriotic average Americans who stand with you 100% in doing what must be done.
It won’t be fixed by corrupted legislatures, Governors, or the courts. The recent refusal by all but two of the Supreme Court Justices (including all of your own Supreme Court picks) to hear the Texas election fraud case shows that the cancer of cowardice, compromised officials, and treason has spread even to the Supreme Court. The disclosures of the corruption and blackmailing of Hunter Biden and the corruption of Rep. Swalwell by a Communist Chinese Spy, as well as the blackmail ring run by Jeffery Epstein, are the tip of the iceberg in how the deep state and its Chicom allies have taken over our establishment elites.
That corrupted establishment won’t fix it, but We the People shall, one way or another and we need you to lead us in this great battle to save our Republic.
Further, the US Constitution states in Article I, Section 8 that Congress has the power:
To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions
Congress long ago provided for just that by passing the Insurrection Act which delegates that decision and power to you, as President and Commander-in-Chief.
The Insurrection Act, 1o U.S. Code, Section 252- Use of militia and armed forces to enforce Federal authority, states:
Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion.
Section 253 of the Insurrection Act then states:
The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy, if it—
(1)
so hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection;
(2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.
In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution.
Section 254 then states:
Whenever the President considers it necessary to use the militia or the armed forces under this chapter, he shall, by proclamation, immediately order the insurgents to disperse and retire peaceably to their abodes within a limited time.
Clearly an unlawful combination and conspiracy in multiple states (indeed, in every state) has acted to deprive the people of the fundamental right to vote for their representatives in a clean, fair election as is required in a free nation, striking at the very heart of what it means to have a republican form of government, and disenfranchising them. You, and you alone, are fully authorized by the Insurrection Act to determine that such a situation exists, and to use the U.S. military and the militia to rectify that situation. And the militia includes not only the National Guard units of each state, called into federal service, but also includes the body of the people, age 17-45, and especially us military veterans, who are by federal statute subject to call up for service as the militia until age 65, due to our prior training and experience.
As Article II declares, “The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States.” You must call us up, and command us.
We urge you to do the following simultaneously as both the chief law enforcement officer of the nation, and as the commander in Chief:
INVOKE THE INSURRECTION ACT: Issue a Presidential Proclamation, directly invoking the Insurrection Act, declaring an insurrection, rebellion, and coup to be in effect by domestic enemies of the U.S. Constitution and traitors who are in collusion with and/or acting as agents of a foreign enemy (specifically Communist China, but also other known or unknown foreign enemies) and to call up the militia (including the National Guard, us veterans, and patriotic Americans of military age) and US military to suppress the insurrection. That proclamation should declare that domestic traitors have conspired with a foreign enemy, specifically Communist China, and have been either bribed or blackmailed by that enemy, and together they have subverted our electoral system from top to bottom to rig elections at every level, and to steal elections with the intent of overthrowing our Constitution and our way of life.
A. Order the data seized: Pursuant to that proclamation, order SOCOM and other trusted military units, to seize all databases of the CIA, FBI, NSA, DNI, etc and the records held by all state electoral systems and administrators. And order them to take possession of and preserve all evidence of the insurrection/rebellion/coup wherever it is housed or held and to counter and suppress any attempt by the insurrectionists to prevent the seizing of the data.
B. Order a mass declassification of the dirty secrets: Order SOCOM Intelligence officers and other trusted and loyal patriot intelligence officers to carry out your orders to declassifying ALL the dirty secrets and evidence of crimes by all the corrupt and compromised elites (in both major parties) to expose them all, and especially to expose their treason and their willing service to communist china and other foreign powers, as spies, agents, and puppets. Of course, those loyal intelligence officers should not declassify and disclose data that could put at risk loyal American operatives and allies in foreign nations, who are on legitimate missions that are related to our legitimate national interests. Only disclose data on traitors and their treason.
C. Within all that data will be the evidence needed to expose the vote fraud and who is behind it, as well as expose all the corrupt judges, state Attorney Generals, governors, legislative leaders, election officials, etc.
D. Order a massive public “Wikileaks” style data-dump to put all the dirty secrets of the compromised elites on display to the American people. Those secrets are the very “swamp water” that the DC swamp creatures swim in. Those dirty secrets both control and shield them all. Throw the doors open, and dump all the skeletons out of the closets and onto the streets for all the people to see, and for all the world to see.
E. Pardon and free Julian Assange and ask him to assist in this massive data-dump public disclosure. He is a hero who has dedicated his life to battling the deep state and deserve our thanks and a chance to serve not just America, but all humanity by assisting in this great cause.
F. Fire Barr and removed him from office immediately (UPDATE: Barr has resigned, but needs removed immediately. Don’t let him run the clock out even a day more). The replacement should not come from within the beltway.
You must appoint a REAL patriot Attorney General who will actually fight and actually clean house. Look outside the beltway for a real patriot. We will help you find one who will actually fight for the Republic. This is a populist movement, and the people are still being locked out, which is why you keep getting betrayed over and over. Appoint REAL patriots who are outsiders.
E. Appoint a special prosecutor and task force. The new Attorney General should appoint a special prosecutor with a full task force to investigate and indict all those involved in the vote fraud and to go after the Deep State from top to bottom, including within the DOJ, prosecuting all traitors in all branches, and all levels, to root out all who are actively committing treason, and who have been compromised, blackmailed, or bought out by Communist China and/or other foreign enemies.
F. Fire Wray and put a patriot in place as FBI Director to clean house in the FBI and to actually do their jobs.
2. Order the U.S. Military to go to Defcon 2, or even Defcon 1, to defend our nation from external threats while we suppress this internal insurrection. It is imperative that we maintain strict control of our nuclear arsenal in patriot hands and that our armed forces stand ready to repel foreign attack and interference while we handle this necessarily drastic domestic house cleaning.
3. Call the militia into federal service. Pursuant to you powers as Commander-in-Chief to call forth the militia, call up all National Guard units into federal service, and likewise call up all military veterans up to age 65 into federal service as the militia to assist in keeping the peace here at home. Also call up all able-bodied Americans between the ages of 17-45 who are still loyal to the Constitution to likewise report for duty, bearing their own arms. You have the power to command them and order them to report for duty at their nearest military base or National Guard armory in their state. All of the above, as the militia, can be used to keep the peace in our local and state communities, under your direct command, to suppress the expected riots, terrorism, and armed insurrection by the radical left in the United States (who have been armed and equipped for months now by our foreign and domestic enemies).
3. CONDUCT A CLEAN ELECTION/CLEAN UP OUR CORRUPTED AND COMPROMISED ELECTION SYSTEM.
We will post advise on this shortly. Stay tuned. It is both simple, and very complex, given the advanced cancer of corruption in our voting system.
CONCLUSION: WE ARE IN FOR A FIGHT, NO MATTER WHAT. LET’S GET IT DONE WITH YOU AS COMMANDER IN CHIEF
There is no way out but through. And we will NOT submit to a Chicom puppet regime. You must stand tall and use your constitutional powers to fight this war against enemies foreign and domestic while you are still President and Commander-in-Chief. If you fail to do so, we the people will have to fight a bloody revolution/civil war to throw off an illegitimate deep state/Chinese puppet regime.
You must use both your authority to invoke the Insurrection Act and your absolute power to declassify any and all secrets.
Because of the machinations of the complicit mainstream media, most Americans are ignorant of just how corrupted and compromised the establishment has become. They have no idea how many political, legal, media, and business elites are now compromised puppets of Communist China with the aid of the deep state traitors within our own intelligence and federal law enforcement agencies. That is why you must use SOCOM and other loyal military units to do a mass data seizure, declassification, and mass data-dump to throw all the skeletons out into the streets, exposing all the dirty secrets that are used to control American elites, and show the American people all the evidence that will show them who is dirty, who is a traitor, and who is a criminal. This will destroy the credibility of the traitors and make it far easier to defeat them, with the people themselves being the judge, and with our military service-members also clearly seeing who has turned traitor and who must not be obeyed. It is critical. You must do both. Expose them all, and then bring them to justice.
Know this: millions of American military and law enforcement veterans, and many millions more loyal patriotic American gun owners stand ready to answer your call to arms, and to obey your orders to get this done.
For the Republic,
Stewart Rhodes
Yale Law 04, Army Airborne veteran
Kellye SoRelle
Texas attorney and former prosecutor
Howie, don’t you think your people, when they were getting herded into ghettos and then into box cars were saying, well, we can vote the Nazis out…..NEXT ELECTION? This is where we are now. There will be another free and fair election again….just like Venezuela, and other places that use Venezuelan Dominion voting machines. It’s got to be stopped now. That means the military arresting insurrection plotters and participants, and holding military trials, since it seems even the Robert’s led Supreme Court is compromised.
Howie Katz says
Yikes, it looks like Bill has been hacked by Alex Jones.
Howie Katz says
Dan, if you want see a real locked in loser, just stand in front of any mirror and take a good look.
Fat Albert says
Bill,
It would appear that the only thing you’re lacking is the tin foil in which to wrap your head to protect you from the alien brain rays.
I read the article you linked to. It appears to be the delusional ravenings of a couple of conspiracy theory wackos.
Honestly, do you actually believe this crap? “We are at war!!!!” Hmmmm. . . I must have missed that Congressional Resolution.
“order SOCOM and other trusted military units, to seize all databases of the CIA, FBI, NSA, DNI, etc and the records held by all state electoral systems and administrators. And order them to take possession of and preserve all evidence of the insurrection/rebellion/coup wherever it is housed or held and to counter and suppress any attempt by the insurrectionists to prevent the seizing of the data.” If you believe that could actually even be accomplished, you should immediately seek medical help
Actually what you (and the lunatics that you are quoting) are calling for is open all out civil war. “We must destroy our Republic in order to save it”.
“Through well-orchestrated mass vote fraud, the Communist Chinese and their domestic enemy allies are about to install their illegitimate puppet, Joe Biden, and his equally illegitimate puppet running mate, Kamala Harris, into the White House, with their treasonous fingers on the nuclear launch codes.” OMG!!!! Not the LAUNCH CODES!
Hmmmm “well orchestrated” Apparently so well orchestrated and hidden that nobody has actually been able to produce proof sufficient to convince a single legal venue of their reality. Or, is it your claim that the Chinese have subverted all of the Judges in the US already?
“Illegitimate puppet, Joe Biden” Well, he’s a doofus alright, a liar and probably not a nice guy. But his parents were married. Likewise for Kamala Harris. Just because they have different political beliefs doesn’t necessarily mean they are being controlled by another Government.
“Treasonous fingers” “Treason” is a legally definable charge. If you (or the loons at Oathkeepers) think that Biden or Harris have committed acts of treason, then you should show proof and take legal action.
But, you can’t – ’cause it just ain’t there. That’s what this all boils down to. You, and the thousands like you, who believe that there’s NO WAY that Trump could have possibly lost the election. You have convinced yourselves that it must have been the Chinese that stole the election, because otherwise the truth would be that in the end all the good that Trump has done just couldn’t outweigh the fact that he’s often an obnoxious schmuck.
I’m going to stop here, except to say that if the President were to attempt to actually DO the things listed as action points, it would take Congress and the Cabinet about 4 hours to meet, invoke Section 4 of the 25th Amendment and summarily remove the President from Office. Seriously.
You fellas need to move on.
Howie Katz says
Fat, you’ve hit a bases loaded home run with this comment.
It’s a truly sad shame that Bill and all those who think like him have had their brains warped by a bunch of ridiculous conspiracy theories.
Paul Kubosh says
Why do you have to start your posts with insults of trump supporters? Makes hard to route for Republican Senators when you start your comments like a CNN contributor.